Episode 5

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31st Jan 2024

ADHD, Big Feelings and RSD: Emotional disregulation and more

ADHD Coach Katherine Sanders

"Embracing Emotions: ADHD emotional dysregulation, RSD and tools for living."

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In the latest episode, "Embracing Emotion" join Katherine, an advanced certified ADHD coach, as she explains the world of emotions and ADHD.

For the next 5 episodes, we're focusing on the landscape of RSD, ADHD, emotional disregulation and its profound impact on focus, organization, and personal relationships.

Combining her academic knowledge, in depth training and personal ADHD journey, brings to light the causes of emotional dysregulation. Discover how rapid mood shifts, often misunderstood or misdiagnosed, are a part of the ADHD experience. Learn about the brain's role in these emotional processes and how ADHD uniquely shapes our emotional responses. We discuss the idea of RSD - rejection sensitivity dysphoria - as well as Dr Russell Barkley's 'DESR' - deficient emotional self regulation.

But this episode isn't just about understanding; it's about practical, everyday strategies. We discuss ADHD mindfulness, routine structuring, and simple, effective techniques to navigate the intense emotions of ADHD. Whether it's dealing with workplace challenges or personal relationships, these insights are geared towards bringing balance and control into your life.

Katherine shares a groundbreaking concept - Emotional Acuity Resonance (EAR), offering a fresh perspective on emotional sensitivity.

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RODE NT-USB & Susan's iphone (work) Camera:

Welcome back.

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My friend IT IS ADHD,

powerful possibilities.

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I'm ADHD, coach Katherine.

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And this month, we are going to

be looking at emotions and ADHD.

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Throughout this month, we're going to

dig deep into emotional dysregulation.

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And we're going to make sure that you

really understand it and that you have

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an insight into what's happening and why.

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And the tools that you can use

to change your relationship

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with your emotions forever.

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That's right.

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I am going to spend the next five

episodes talking about emotions,

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ADHD, emotional dysregulation.

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What it means, how it happens,

what you can do about it.

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And more importantly, how you

can understand the impact it has

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on things like your focus, your

organization, your energy, It

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can lead you to isolate yourself.

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Other people might not

understand what's happening and.

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Maybe not invite you to things.

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It can lead you to self-sabotage and.

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Hold back from pursuing your dreams

because the emotional fallout.

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Feels so uncontrollable and overwhelming.

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But I passionately believe

that self-education.

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Is key to understanding our own.

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ADHD our neurology our emotions.

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Ever impact emotional dysregulation

is having on you right now.

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I believe that it can be improved.

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And I believe that you are

the person who can do that.

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I had no idea when I was growing up

that the intense emotions that I felt

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and sometimes felt like they actually

kept me captive and overwhelmed.

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Were an aspect of ADHD.

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We're going to start

today by just exploring.

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What an emotion is.

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Why it's different for people with ADHD.

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And a couple of the really popular

models of how we understand.

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Emotional dysregulation

and just have a chat about.

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Are they useful for you?

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Do you need to accept them?

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And we will end again as always.

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With a practical thing that you can

take away today for when you are

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feeling emotionally dysregulated.

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Let's begin by understanding what

emotional dysregulation is, particularly

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when it comes to people with ADHD

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the things you might notice

are very sudden mood changes.

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And I was talking to somebody yesterday.

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And they mentioned that.

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The joy.

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The euphoria that we sometimes

experience with ADHD.

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And I recognized immediately.

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The power of that positive feeling that

we get, when everything is lined up,

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we're doing something that we love.

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We're doing it really well.

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We get those bursts of joy and euphoria.

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And that is a really intense ADHD emotion.

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At the same time that can

very quickly turn into.

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Intense sadness because of everything

that's happening in the world.

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Something that may be happening

in your personal life.

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So these very quick mood changes are

an element of emotional dysregulation.

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It's possibly one of the

reasons, many people.

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Initially have a diagnosis

of another mood disorder.

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Before recognizing that actually

this rapid change is part of ADHD.

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And the emotional dysregulation.

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So the first thing is your moods

change intensely and rapidly.

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You may also find that when you

have become dysregulated, very

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upset, very angry, really unhappy.

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It's harder to come back to a place

of regulation, which I guess most

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people would call calming down.

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But in fact is all about being

in the appropriate emotional

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state for your circumstances.

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If something bad happens,

it's appropriate to be upset.

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If as an adult is having

an impact on your work.

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If you are somebody who

regularly has to take time off.

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Who regularly cannot complete work, who

is having trouble managing your reaction

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and response to things in the workplace.

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All of these things are sign

posts of emotional dysregulation.

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I want to say, I'm not a counselor

therapist or a psychologist.

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If you have any of these.

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Experiences.

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You do need to have them assessed.

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Because the last thing you want to

do is ignore something that could

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be treated like a mood disorder,

like depression or anxiety.

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So don't ignore these experiences,

but try to put them in the

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context of your longer term life.

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Have you always been somebody

who has this emotional response?

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Or is this a new thing?

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And this can be very difficult

if you're a woman going through a

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menstrual cycle, if you are entering

perimenopause and menopause.

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Your emotions are more likely to change.

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Is it something to do with a larger

hormonal change in your stage of life?

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Although, it's not part

of the diagnosis of ADHD.

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It is really important that

it's taken into account.

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It's really a core element.

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Of the experience of

ADHD and everyday life.

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And most people, when you talk to them,

say my biggest problem is procrastination.

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When you dig underneath the surface, the

procrastination is caused by the emotion.

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That they're avoiding.

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And so procrastination

is a temporary mood fix.

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Coming back to emotional dysregulation.

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Let's look at your brain.

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I do love the connections

between the emotions we feel and

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what's happening in the brain.

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And I think when you know more

about it, you'll love it too.

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I've talked before about your prefrontal

cortex and the impact of that on your

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executive functions, things like planning,

prioritizing, organizing time management.

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All the things that we struggle with ADHD.

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are largely connected to

your prefrontal cortex.

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And that is in the frontal

lobe of your brain.

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So think of the prefrontal

cortex in the frontal lobe.

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As the dashboard inside your car.

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It might be that our dashboard in ADHD.

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Is a bit too sensitive.

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So you might need to wiggles,

the wipers on the windscreen in a

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certain way to get them to come on.

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You may need to be very careful

when you're pressing the air

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con button, because it's going

to come out like a hurricane.

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So your dashboard and ADHD, your

prefrontal cortex, the frontal lobe.

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It's just a little bit more unpredictable,

a little bit more sensitive.

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To the input and how you drive the car.

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If you've ever had a new

phone or a new computer.

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And you're trying to get

used to the new buttons.

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You might find you're hitting

them too hard or too soft, or

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it's opening things at random.

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It's exactly the same with your prefrontal

cortex and the frontal lobe and ADHD.

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We just need to manage things

a little bit differently.

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The next part of your brain, you

need to think about with emotional

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dysregulation is the limbic system.

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Now,, this is a huge oversimplification,

but it's near the center of your brain.

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And this is where emotions are processed.

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And again, it's a bit

more sensitive with ADHD.

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It can also make it harder

for us to calm down.

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Finally, we've got to think

about your neurotransmitters,

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the chemical messengers.

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That carry.

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Signals from one part of

your brain to the other.

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And have particular jobs.

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And of course we think of dopa mean

was ADHD, but also nor epinephrin.

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No dopamine and norepinephrine

work in partnership, the react

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to the anticipation of reward.

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The feeling of pleasure.

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The excitement.

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But we know that the

number of transmitters.

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And the way they reacted to

Permian is different with ADHD.

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So instead of your brain being able to

fairly easily balance itself out, so

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you're motivated and you can take action.

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You're excited.

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And then you can come down with

ADHD that balances less predictable.

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That's one of the reasons why.

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Many of us take medication and many

of us respond to it, but not everyone.

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And each of these parts of the brain

is exactly the same in all humans.

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But with ADHD, we know that the

frontal lobe functions differently.

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There can be less activity

in the frontal lobe.

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And the structure can be different.

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There can be weaker connections

between different parts of your brain.

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And this physical difference

in the structure of your brain.

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Changes your response to emotions,

for all the recent discussions about.

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Chicken nuggets and metabolism

and things like that.

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Your brain is functionally.

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Structurally different because

your genes are different.

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That are some people who experienced

ADHD, like symptoms because of.

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Lead poisoning or other problems.

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But.

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The majority of people with ADHD are

genetically different and their structure.

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And function of their brain is different.

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Let's except you have a different brain.

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That it works in a slightly different way.

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And no let's look at what an emotion is.

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What's happening inside your brain

while you experienced that emotion.

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So each emotion is a

response to a trigger.

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This could be something that's

external, like a conversation.

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Or it could be internal, a memory.

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Or a sensation.

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Pain that you have.

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It can be a thought.

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An external or internal event.

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Is the trigger.

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And that information is sent

to the brain, to the thalamus.

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Your thalamus is like a relay station.

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It's the guy in the telegram office

tapping the signal and it sends

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the message to your amygdala.

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So the sensory information

comes through this thalamus

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and heads over to the amygdala.

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And the problem here is that

your amygdala response is.

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Quick, super quick.

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And an emotion doesn't pass

through your cortex where Mr.

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Logic sits and says, is this

a proportionate response?

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So is this a logical though?

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It goes straight from the thalamus.

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Must have the.

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amygdala where you have

an emotion really quickly.

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The amygdala, isn't gonna question

whether this is true or not.

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It's only interested in.

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Is this a threat or is it safe?

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It's going to keep you

safe no matter what.

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So if you're a amygdala senses, a

threat or a significant emotional event.

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It triggers your fight

or flight or freeze.

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And that is where we quite often.

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I experienced the dysregulation.

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Once it's gone through the amygdala.

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The information is passed to your cortex.

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Now the cortex takes its time and

looks at the context, looks at

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your past history, your experience.

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And then it makes an assessment.

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About what the appropriate

response would be.

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And that's when your

neurotransmtters are released.

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So dopamine serotonin, nor epinephrin.

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For example, serotonin is

associated with stabilization.

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And these modularly or shape

our emotional response.

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The emotional reaction, the

emotional response shaped

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by these neuro-transmitters.

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Leads to a physiological change,

a physical change in your body,

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which creates a feedback loop.

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And you might start to experience

an increase in cortisol.

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So your heart rate goes up.

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You start to sweat and

your body sinks oil.

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I'm experiencing.

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A high heart rate.

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I'm sweating.

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Something scary must be happening.

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So then the amygdala perks its

ears up again and I said something

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scary is happening and you can see

how this loop of emotion begins.

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From a thought.

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A conversation, a memory.

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And it very quickly becomes a reality

as far as your brain is concerned.

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At this point, your prefrontal

cortex and the hippocampus should

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be able to assess the situation.

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And establish whether you need to

maintain this level of response.

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Whether this emotion is appropriate or

whether things can return to a stable

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base . And that's one of the things

that we do as parents when we're.

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Physically soothing consoling,

offering safety to a child.

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We're acting as the external

hippocampus, the external

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prefrontal cortex for this person.

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Who's not quite able to set

their own brain down again.

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And an emotional dysregulation.

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There are several points.

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Where this process can be interrupted.

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Very early on.

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You might find that you're a amygdala

reacts too quickly or too strongly.

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And there's some evidence that this

happens more in people with ADHD.

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This happens.

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Because of how our brains are built.

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It could be that our brains have

this rapid amygdala response

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because of our experience.

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As people with ADHD and we're conditioned.

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By our circumstances to

respond more quickly.

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But this is how we are built.

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And that leads to an overreaction.

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I know that.

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I'm a person who jumps and

react to really quickly, too.

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Noises and things.

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way out of line with

anybody else around me?

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RODE NT-USB & Susan's iphone (work) Camera-1:

No.

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You have an idea of what's

actually happening in your brain.

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And throughout, the rest of your

body, when you experience an emotion.

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And you understand.

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why your brain responds

to that in a way that.

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Could be seen as dysregulated.

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Let's think about how

psychologists have explained this.

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And the two people I went

to look at today are Dr.

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Russell Barkley.

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dr.

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William Dodson.

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And these are two of the most influential.

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writers, educators.

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clinicians in ADHD medicine at the moment.

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Today, we'll look at.

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Dr.

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Russell Barkley's model

of D E S R deficient.

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Emotional self-regulation.

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And Dr.

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William Dotson's RSD

rejection sensitive dysphoria.

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These are important

topics and some people.

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Won't even have a conversation about

RSD because they feel that if you

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question how it's been explained.

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It is an.

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Invalidation of their experience.

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And it's a questioning of the reality.

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Of their emotional life and the impact.

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It's hard on them.

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I want to make it very clear.

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That is not what I'm doing today,.

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Let's look at these two models.

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And understand what they are.

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What the strengths are.

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And if there are any areas where, we might

question their usefulness or what the

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implications are for your everyday life.

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Let's begin with D E S R because it's

the one fewer people have heard about.

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Deficient emotional self

regulation proposed by Dr.

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Russell Barkley, who everyone has seen

in clips on the internet talking about.

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Hope body ADHD can be.

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Is deficient emotional self regulation.

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So emotional dysregulation fits

really well with us, and it is very

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much a part of the understanding

that our executive functions.

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Is it.

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Less efficient in an ADHD

brain because of the structural

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neuro-transmitter differences

that we've talked about before.

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And it's very much connected

to our impulsivity.

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Our inability to put the brakes on.

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In time.

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It means that we might have

a harder time self soothing.

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And find it more difficult

to focus our attention back.

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I don't think there's anything

controversial in any of that.

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And it's not suggesting the old emotions

are exceedingly negative or exceedingly.

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Out of control, just that.

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Our ability to point the torch of our

emotional focus and the direction we want.

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Isn't quite what we would like.

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At our age and stage of development.

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And Dr.

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Barkley's model is widely

supported by research and.

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We include articles that

you can go and read.

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In the show notes as always.

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It puts it very much in the context

of wider executive function problems.

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Like prioritization.

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Impulsivity time management organization.

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So it's definitely was in the same context

of an executive function model of ADHD.

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It also lines up with

the observed neurological

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differences in our frontal lobes.

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And in the limbic system.

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. So there is.

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Good objective evidence.

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both in terms of studies,

journal articles.

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Also in the physical evidence.

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it's not incredibly negative.

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that should respond to medication.

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general public with ADHD.

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Somebody understands.

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Somebody understands just

how painful I find rejection.

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How sensitive.

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I feel to the.

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Responses of other people.

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material being produced.

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this aspect of our emotions.

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pay attention to something.

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Thank goodness people take it

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funding and money for research.

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seen as something that is.

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Symptom or a subset of experiences

of emotional dysregulation.

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Or deficient emotional self-regulation.

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Rather than being something.

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Proven wrong, or if somebody knows

an article that you can send to

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me, At the moment, I haven't found

a unique pathway in the brain.

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That is.

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Triggered.

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Or is, has an response elicited.

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That could be identified clearly as RSD.

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In the ADHD brain.

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I may be wrong because there's

fantastic research being done.

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All the time.

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problem that I have with RSD.

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Is that it pathologizes.

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The intensity of ADHD emotions.

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And.

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Happening was our executive functions.

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between a mood disorder.

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lasts and is consistent.

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Much quicker than you would

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anxiety or clinical depression.

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saying you experienced this, but

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this is a pathology is wrong.

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Difference.

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What we often see in ADHD as our

highs are high and our loos are lower.

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And David Giwerc and

Barbara Luther from ADDCA.

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wrote paper in response to understanding

RSD when it first was presented.

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And the felt the same

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Is that.

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An ADHD.

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triggered by an event.

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A person, a comment.

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An interaction either with our

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Rather than the kind of dysthmyia that

people have this overall low mood.

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But when you label something.

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As dysphoria.

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It's stuck.

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It becomes something we recognize and

identify Barbara, who is my teacher

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always said bad is stickier than good.

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Guess what, if you label your

emotional response to something as

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a rejection, sensitivity, dysphoria.

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And yes, it is painful.

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It's exquisitely painful.

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I would never diminish

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And in a few episodes, I'm going

to share a concept that I think.

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It gives you a different perspective.

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And allows you to

embrace that sensitivity.

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But in a more.

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Possible.

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And we're possible way.

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In a way that allows you to understand it.

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In a useful.

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Context.

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Let's just finish our.

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are they useful ideas.

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For us in our everyday life

and for the implications.

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We're going to expect a broader

range of emotional reactivity.

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You're going to experience heightened,

emotional reactions and responses.

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And we also know that your impulse

control is going to be affected.

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Because when you're busy

dealing with an emotion, you're.

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Ability to control your impulses

is also going to be impacted.

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So it could have a impact

on your daily life.

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But this is a broader range

of emotions rather than a

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incorrect way to feel things.

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It's just.

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The volumes turned up to 11.

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If you are of a certain

age, you'll understand.

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And of course this could affect

things like your relationships.

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But there are ways that you can

improve that through communication.

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Hey, fostering empathy and compassion

between partners between family members.

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But this emotional turbulence

will require some effort.

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If you want to manage.

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It's not going to just go away.

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Without you making any effort

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what is the impact and the implication

of rejection sensitivity, dysphoria.

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On the one hand.

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It's really fantastic for self-awareness.

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Allows people to feel seen to

understand their own reactions

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and their own sensitivity.

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It can also have an impact

on personal relationships.

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And I think it's really important that

anyone who is in a relationship or in

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a family, And a class of friendship

with someone with ADHD is aware.

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That we are acutely aware and

sensitive to what other people are

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thinking and what they're seeing.

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And hopefully they're seeing it.

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And there is this awareness

that can be really powerful.

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At the same time, it can also be wrong.

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The thing is that there are things you

can do if you are very sensitive and

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you can learn things like mindfulness

and stress relief, and that are CBT

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techniques that are very helpful.

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can work very nicely together.

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As long as we keep in mind

that the ADHD experience is.

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One of maximizing.

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And we maximize our emotions in the

same way as we maximize our attention.

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When we are interested, we hyper-focus,

and we can disappear for hours, days.

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Into something that we're

passionately interested about.

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But that interest is also an

emotion and it's a positive one.

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When it's in the right direction.

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RSD as being under the umbrella.

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Of this.

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Emotional self regulation that Dr.

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Barkley talks about.

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But be aware that.

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At no point.

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Should a label disempower.

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You.

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And in a couple of episodes.

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I'm going to introduce the

concept which is emotional.

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Acuity resonance ear.

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And it's about.

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Taking that emotional

awareness, that sensitivity.

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That.

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Fantastic responsiveness that you have.

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And using it as a positive

strengths that you can lean into

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when you really understand it

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But for now we're going

to look at simple things.

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That are going to affect your emotional

self-regulation and move on from

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these clinical models into things

that affect your emotional self

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regulation on a day-to-day basis.

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And then.

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Briefly what you can do with them.

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Let's look at three things that everybody

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with ADHD will experience and that

can disrupt your emotional regulation.

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The first is a lack of sleep.

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If you are experiencing

problems, sleeping.

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That is going to affect your emotional

regulation because your whole brain

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responds to that lack of rest.

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It's been shown to affect things like how

we eat and how we behave during the day.

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But an ADHD, this effect is magnified.

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If you are a person who's

in a stressful environment.

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You're going to have

more cortisol already.

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And then if you add in the ADHD,

Overreaction of the amygdala.

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You can see why you get this

really exaggerated response.

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And something that some people ignore, but

it's an important part of living with ADHD

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is an overstimulation, a sensory overload.

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If your senses are being overwhelmed,

if it's too loud, too noisy, too

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smelly, too bright, too fast.

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All of these things, your brains already

processing all of that information

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and trying to make sense of that.

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Where perhaps less good at filtering out.

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And this can also lead us to quicker

and more intense emotional responses.

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So when somebody taps your arm or

interrupt you, you're more likely to.

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Explode.

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Now one thing I'm going to look at

in a episode in a couple of weeks is.

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The impact of myths around ADHD

and how that affects our emotions.

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But one that I want to address

right now is that this is

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somehow a lack of willpower.

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And you're just being too sensitive.

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If it was only that simple.

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Nobody who experiences emotional

dysregulation would continue to do so.

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if it was simply a matter of choice.

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There are things that we can do.

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And there are steps that we

can take to support ourselves.

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And look after it ourselves.

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But it's not something that

you have chosen to experience

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because it's generally.

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Unpleasant.

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And every single human

being on the planet.

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wants to avoid unpleasant experiences.

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We're going to look at long-term

strategies in future episodes.

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I want to give you a couple

of things that you can do.

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When you are starting to recognize

that you are experiencing

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emotional dysregulation.

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These are no.

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Miracle cures.

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You're still going to

experience the emotion.

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But.

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If you practice them enough.

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They will start to allow you to

regain that balance and that control.

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More quickly.

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A lot of people talk about

mindfulness for ADHD.

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I personally.

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Love ADHD, mindfulness.

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But there are important caveats that

I want to pop into this episode.

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There are some people for

whom it is not suitable.

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If you have PTSD.

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If you are managing trauma

and are not in a great place.

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Traditional mindfulness con.

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Be harmful.

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When we begin to focus inward,

we can become overstimulated.

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We can.

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Spiral into rumination.

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We can expedience intense.

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low moods and if we're being mindful of

our thoughts, then if you have distressing

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negative thoughts, that's not helpful.

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And of course we have the

difficulty with focusing.

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Expecting people with ADHD to be

able to focus for 35 40 minutes.

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For traditional mindfulness practice is.

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Hopeful.

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Let's see it's hopeful.

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If not unrealistic.

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What can you do in stead?

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And these are things that you can do.

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When you feel emotionally dysregulated.

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Think about.

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A mindful moment.

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Thinking about being fully present

in your body in the present moment.

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So being very conscious of how your feet

are touching the floor, the weight of

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your body, as it passes through your legs.

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Eh, hold on to something.

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In front of you or beside

you and feel where your

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fingertips make contact with it.

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Come into the present moment.

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Rather than allowing year main

to spiral off into negative.

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memories.

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And simply breathe.

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And focus on filling up your stomach.

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As you breathe in.

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Slowly.

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But don't try to do it for

more than one or two breaths.

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We're just asking your brain

to come back to right here.

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. And to focus on the breath and the

contact of your skin on the surface.

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The weight of your feet on the floor.

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You might find that something

like a walking meditation or

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walking mindfulness practice is

something you can use every day.

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If you're starting to feel

emotionally dysregulated at work.

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Can you take a break?

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Go for a walk around the block and

again, be very conscious of how your

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feet feel as they touch the ground.

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How your body experiences,

the swinging of your arms.

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Think about your breath coming in and

filling up your lungs as you go around.

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And.

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We're distracting your body

and asking it just to attend.

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To the experience of the world right now.

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Rather than the.

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Exaggerated overwhelming inner world

where these emotions are in charge.

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And of course, there's the old

5, 4, 3, 2, 1 technique, which

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is something children can learn.

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You look for.

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Five things that you can see.

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Four things that you can touch.

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Three that you can hear.

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Too, you can smell.

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And one, you can taste.

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This helps you to come back

into the moment again, without.

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Deep introspection deep inner thinking.

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If it's overwhelming and you're

experiencing a sensory overload.

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Focus on one external

object and simply breathe.

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While you look at that one external

object, it could be a tree.

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It could be.

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Chair, it doesn't matter.

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Ideally it's something not chose.

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Something that we know provokes

a calm response, like nature.

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Flowing water.

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These are all perfect.

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If you can't do that.

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Pick one thing and only focus on that.

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Just for a few breaths until you

feel yourself coming back together.

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If you do have PTSD, if you're

experiencing trauma or burnout.

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Get professional advice

as quickly as possible.

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Not from me.

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I don't coach on those things.

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It's outwith my remit.

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But there are people who are qualified.

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And more generally.

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We're likely to expedience

emotional dysregulation.

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When we feel that things

are out of control.

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And one of the simple ways to do

that is to have a kind of structure.

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Or routine in your life?

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And I know some people I hate

retain, I can't stick to a routine.

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That's maybe cause it's not

the right routine for you.

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Our routine has to be flexible.

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It has to be adaptable and changeable

because when we try to do exactly

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the same thing every day, Very

soon, we're going to get bored.

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And then we'll drop the whole thing.

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So instead of doing that.

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Think about how loose can

you make the structure?

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Is it simply getting up at

the same time every day.

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Is it simply having the first half

hour of your day without your phone?

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And reading something interesting.

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That you enjoy.

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It doesn't have to be a self-help book.

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There's so many of those.

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What do you enjoy reading?

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I spent half an hour doing that

instead of looking at your phone, but

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it doesn't need to be complicated.

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And simply making that your structure.

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It gives you a routine.

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That is not confining.

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And it's that.

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Feeling of being confined.

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I think we rebel against.

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And of course that feeling

of confinement provokes an

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emotion because we feel trapped.

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So we look for freedom.

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Your emotional reaction

starts off all over again.

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That's why, when you're

thinking about a routine.

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how loose and free.

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Can you make it very gentle, very light.

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There is good solid research that shows

routines and structure help ADHD brains.

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Because we have less week

of executive functioning.

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To do every day.

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And we're going to go into great

depth on that in a couple of episodes.

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Think about.

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Dr.

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KathleenNadeau m E N D S S.

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Those are her ingredients

for a great healthy routine.

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The people with ADHD need.

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And it's mindfulness exercise nature.

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Good diet.

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Social interaction and sleep.

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And if you can get those into

your daily life, in any shape

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or form that works for you.

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You're going to feel that you have

a routine, which is unique to you.

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But it's going to meet those

essential needs to keep your ADHD

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brain healthy and functioning.

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And to allow you to do that.

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I've created a notion template.

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And a Google doc, which you can download.

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And which are going to

allow you to become aware.

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All of your emotions.

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How your routine is affecting them.

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There's a waiting list

page for it just now.

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Whatever you look, I'm going to have

a link for you to join the wait list.

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If you want access to that notion

tracker and the Google doc.

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That early simple version

is going to be free.

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I'm working on.

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A really lovely one, which

will show you very clearly how

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all of this comes together.

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And how to maximize the good stuff about

ADHD, without being overwhelmed by the

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challenges, the emotional dysregulation.

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If you want to join the

waiting list for that.

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Check my links.

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It will be wherever you see my name.

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And you'll be first on the list to

get access to that when it comes out.

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And the next episode we

are going to be looking at.

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ADHD and stress.

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And I think this is a really

important one, because as I said

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before, when your stress levels are

high, your cortisol level is high.

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Apart from the physical health

problems that you have at can

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create real mental stress and strain

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if you have ADHD.

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So come back next week to learn

more about ADHD and stress.

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I've what it looks like, how to manage it.

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And get on the waiting list.

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For the notion and Google documents

that will allow you to see the

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proof that this is happening to you

and learn how to manage it better.

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I would love to hear from you if you've

experienced emotional dysregulation.

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What it's meant for you?

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The impact has been for you.

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And if you're in the very loose and not

remotely official team bulb use that

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hashtag and I will keep an eye out for

you and we'll look at how emotional

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dysregulation and stress and ADHD.

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Act together.

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And over the next few weeks, we're

going to transform how you understand

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this and how you respond to it.

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And how you can manage it going forward.

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So thank you again for joining me

today on ADHD, Powerful possibilities.

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If it's been valuable for you and come

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About the Podcast

ADHD: Powerful Possibilities from New Diagnosis & Beyond
ADHD strategies, support and research in friendly, easy to understand PG rated episodes
Welcome to a new way to look at life *AND* ADHD.
ADHD isn't just about kids in school any more. By now you've probably read a million articles or at least watched a million videos by influencers and creators.

What you're REALLY looking for are deeper insights, with a dash of neuroscience and a sprinkling of coaching and positive psychology, to discover your ADHD strengths and turn it into a doorway to real possibilities. You're probably already aware of how ADHD affects your life, career, and relationships but we won't ignore those challenges - no 'superpower' talk here without acknowledging how it can really cause problems at all ages.

I'm your host Katherine. I'm a certified ADHD coach with over 300 hours of study and qualifications from ADDCA. Diagnosed with ADHD and Autism in my early 40s, I mix my personal experience with some seriously academic, geek-level knowledge to guide you through the fog and into the clear.

I'm also known to throw in references to 80s & 90s music, sitcoms like Brooklyn99 and my rescue dogs. Clients have said I'm an ADHD nerd version of their favourite aunty - but you can make your own mind up!

This podcast is my contribution to the growing ADHD aware community, where I want your real challenges to meet real solutions, and where you can find the resources - and a friend - to help you make changes in your life without the 'think p0sitive' vibes or 'doom and gloom' extremes.

Who is this podcast for?
Although I mainly focus on adult ADHD, I'm a coach of kids age 15+ and the parent of an ADHD teen, so I know how we tend to travel in family packs!

I'll talk about children, teens and older families too - did you know that over 50s are the fastest growing demographic in ADHD? Well I'm one of you so I GET IT.

In my coaching practice I especially support women navigating life changes like perimenopause and menopause - so you're in the right place if ANY of those are your jam.

I'm ALSO a business owner who has 20 years experience of working for myself - without medication - so if you're struggling to see. how you can get things done without burning out, let's say I've bought that t-shirt a few times and am here to explain how you can avoid it.

🌟 What Can You Expect?🌟
Weekly episodes diving into topics that matter to you: What happens after diagnosis? Should you take medication? Does diet culture impact ADHD? What's happening with your consistency? Can you ever let go of the SHAME?

We'll explain and explore the big topics: Executive Function, Emotional Regulation, Time Management, and more.

Guest experts appearing at *excitingly random intervals*, offering a range of perspectives on ADHD, life, and things that will really move the needle for YOU.

Tips and strategies to not just cope, but thrive, with ADHD.

💡 Why listen to another ADHD Podcast? 💡
I know first hand the struggle AND the promise that comes with an ADHD diagnosis. There's a wealth of power and possibilities in you; this podcast is your key to unlock it.

I keep my episodes short, fluff-free and PG rated so you can listen to them out loud without worrying about random f-bombs.

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